{"id":82442,"date":"2025-04-02T07:26:00","date_gmt":"2025-04-02T11:26:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.stillbeingmolly.com\/?post_type=podcast&#038;p=82442"},"modified":"2025-04-01T19:34:41","modified_gmt":"2025-04-01T23:34:41","slug":"435-the-sacred-order-of-the-underestimated-with-mary-marantz","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/www.stillbeingmolly.com\/podcast-archive\/435-the-sacred-order-of-the-underestimated-with-mary-marantz\/","title":{"rendered":"#435 &#8211; The Sacred Order of the Underestimated with Mary Marantz"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"730\" height=\"730\" src=\"https:\/\/www.stillbeingmolly.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/04\/marymarantzCopy-of-INSTA-POST-POD-TEMPLATES-730x730.png\" alt=\"#435 - The Sacred Order of the Underestimated with Mary Marantz\" class=\"wp-image-82443\" 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href=\"\">SoundCloud<\/a><a class=\"button-stitcher\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"display:none !important;\" href=\"\">Stitcher<\/a><a class=\"button-sppandroid\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"display:none !important;\" href=\"http:\/\/subscribeonandroid.com\/businesswithpurposepodcast.com\/rss\">Subscribe on Android<\/a><a class=\"button-spprss\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"display:none !important;\" href=\"https:\/\/businesswithpurposepodcast.com\/rss\">Subscribe via RSS<\/a><a class=\"button-spotify\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"display:none !important;\" href=\"\">Spotify<\/a><a class=\"spp-button-custom1\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"display:none !important;\" href=\"\"><\/a><a class=\"spp-button-custom2\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"display:none !important;\" href=\"\"><\/a><a class=\"spp-button-custom3\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"display:none !important;\" href=\"\"><\/a><a class=\"spp-button-custom4\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"display:none !important;\" href=\"\"><\/a><a class=\"spp-button-custom5\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"display:none !important;\" href=\"\"><\/a><a class=\"spp-button-custom6\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"display:none !important;\" href=\"\"><\/a><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019m thrilled to welcome back my dear friend <a href=\"https:\/\/marymarantz.com\/\">Mary Marantz<\/a> for her third appearance on the show! If you\u2019ve been here a while, you already know how incredible Mary is- she\u2019s a powerhouse in every sense of the word. As a podcaster, author, speaker, photographer, and coach, she truly does it all.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Today, we\u2019re diving into her latest book, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Underestimated-Surprisingly-Simple-Playing-Forward\/dp\/0800738497?_encoding=UTF8&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.LnWFAQzgqUCfGYvdqj0fZNHFpuA2qT8PzPFX8phwKuh428LBoggTpkGBG-gjqa0QOS_ASqNpgN39u2c_P4bojnBwN-HiSNbEXschGhPpQA4.ajDagpveafYaaNUn9CWh_bA0KU_APJ_aDLO7XH0b1Do&amp;qid=1737574802&amp;sr=1-1&amp;linkCode=sl1&amp;tag=justinmarantz-20&amp;linkId=1d9ce4197da3bbaf001ac53550b9fa92&amp;language=en_US&amp;ref_=as_li_ss_tl\"><em>Underestimated<\/em>,<\/a> which releases later this month. We\u2019re talking about what it means to be underestimated, why fear is a boring liar, and how playing small was never part of your purpose. This conversation was so good and I\u2019m so excited to share it with you!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span>4:23<\/span> \u2013 Mary 301<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Catching up since Mary\u2019s second book<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The experience writing <em>Underestimated<\/em><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The journey leading up to this book<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><span>6:25<\/span> \u2013 The Starting Line<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Starting over in your 40s<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>It\u2019s never too late to achieve your goals<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Untangling limiting beliefs<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><span>13:32<\/span> \u2013 Fear Is A Boring Liar<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Fear often repeats the same lies<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Fear\u2019s jealousy of creativity<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>How the enemy uses deception<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Flipping the fear narrative<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><span>27:31<\/span> \u2013 The Power of Naming Fear<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>How unaddressed fears can lead to burnout<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Having an accountability partner<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Mirrors and microscopes<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Learning and growing from your mistakes<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><span>50:09<\/span> \u2013 Closing Thoughts<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Who this book is for<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Mary\u2019s prayer for her readers<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Pre-ordering your copy of <em>Underestimated<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><u>FEATURED QUOTES<\/u><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWhat does it look like for us to quit playing small on the good work that&#8217;s been prepared for us in advance?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cThis book is for the one who feels like they&#8217;re being called up to greatness. They&#8217;re being called up to more, but at the very same time, you simultaneously doubt that someone like you could ever get there.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cGod did not call you to play small. He did not call you to shrink back. He made you for more than you realize.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn more about Mary:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/marymarantz.com\">https:\/\/marymarantz.com<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Grab a FREE chapter of Mary\u2019s book, <em>Underestimated:<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/marymarantz.myflodesk.com\/underestimatedch1\">https:\/\/marymarantz.myflodesk.com\/underestimatedch1<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Mary Marantz Show:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-mary-marantz-show\/id1478272407\">https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-mary-marantz-show\/id1478272407<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Achiever Type Quiz:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.marymarantz.com\/quiz\">https:\/\/www.marymarantz.com\/quiz<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mary on Instagram: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/marymarantz\/?hl=en\">https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/marymarantz\/?hl=en<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mary on Facebook: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/marymarantz\/\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/marymarantz\/<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mary on LinkedIn: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/marymarantz\/\">https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/marymarantz\/<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"featured_media":82444,"template":"","meta":{"wprm-recipe-roundup-name":"","wprm-recipe-roundup-description":"","_kadence_starter_templates_imported_post":false,"_kad_post_transparent":"","_kad_post_title":"","_kad_post_layout":"","_kad_post_sidebar_id":"","_kad_post_content_style":"","_kad_post_vertical_padding":"","_kad_post_feature":"","_kad_post_feature_position":"","_kad_post_header":false,"_kad_post_footer":false},"class_list":["post-82442","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v21.9 (Yoast SEO v21.9.1) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>#435 - The Sacred Order of the Underestimated with Mary Marantz - Still Being Molly<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.stillbeingmolly.com\/podcast-archive\/435-the-sacred-order-of-the-underestimated-with-mary-marantz\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"#435 - The Sacred Order of the Underestimated with Mary Marantz\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"I\u2019m thrilled to welcome back my dear friend Mary Marantz for her third appearance on the show! 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