{"id":82436,"date":"2025-02-26T06:04:00","date_gmt":"2025-02-26T11:04:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.stillbeingmolly.com\/?post_type=podcast&#038;p=82436"},"modified":"2025-02-25T10:11:49","modified_gmt":"2025-02-25T15:11:49","slug":"433-the-theology-of-wine-wine-in-the-word-with-randy-frazee-and-gisela-kreglinger","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/www.stillbeingmolly.com\/podcast-archive\/433-the-theology-of-wine-wine-in-the-word-with-randy-frazee-and-gisela-kreglinger\/","title":{"rendered":"#433 &#8211; The Theology of Wine \/\/ Wine in the Word with Randy Frazee and Gisela Kreglinger"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"730\" height=\"730\" src=\"https:\/\/www.stillbeingmolly.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/02\/randyandgiselaCopy-of-INSTA-POST-POD-TEMPLATES-730x730.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-82438\" 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href=\"\"><\/a><a class=\"spp-button-custom3\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"display:none !important;\" href=\"\"><\/a><a class=\"spp-button-custom4\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"display:none !important;\" href=\"\"><\/a><a class=\"spp-button-custom5\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"display:none !important;\" href=\"\"><\/a><a class=\"spp-button-custom6\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"display:none !important;\" href=\"\"><\/a><\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Oh MAN, you are in for a treat this week! I have not one, but two incredible guests joining me: Randy Frazee and Gisela Kreglinger.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Randy is the lead teaching pastor at Westside Family Church in Kansas City and a visionary in Bible engagement, spiritual formation, and building biblical community. He\u2019s the architect behind The Story and Believe church engagement campaigns and the author of books like The Joy Challenge and Think, Act, Be Like Jesus.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Gisela grew up on a winery in Franconia, Germany, where her family has been crafting wine for generations. She holds multiple degrees in Biblical Studies and a PhD in Historical Theology from the University of St Andrews. Her passion lies at the intersection of food, faith, and joy, which she explores through her writing, teaching, and wine pilgrimages.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Together, they are the brilliant minds behind Wine in the Word, a Bible study that explores the theology of wine, its biblical significance, and how it connects with the Christian life.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This conversation was unlike anything I\u2019ve ever had on the show. It was thought-provoking, eye-opening, and honestly, I could\u2019ve talked to these two for hours! Get ready for a super fascinating discussion!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span>4:27<\/span> \u2013 Randy 101<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u2022 Lead pastor for 36 years<br>\u2022 Writer and author<br>\u2022 Husband, father and grandfather<br>\u2022 Working on this project with Gisela<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span>6:03<\/span> \u2013 Gisela 101<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u2022 Growing up on a winery<br>\u2022 Theologian, teacher, and writer<br>\u2022 Wine tastings and pilgrimages<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span>7:24<\/span> \u2013 The Story Behind \u201cWine In The Word\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u2022 Randy and Gisela\u2019s backgrounds<br>\u2022 How this collaboration came to be<br>\u2022 Wine as a bridge builder<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span>13:55<\/span> \u2013 The Role Of Wine In The Bible<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u2022 The historical context of wine in America<br>\u2022 Wine consumption in Christian context<br>\u2022 Reclaiming wine as a gift from God<br>\u2022 Teaching your children to have a healthy relationship with wine<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span>26:54<\/span> \u2013 \u201cHoly Tipsiness\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u2022 Wine as a social lubricant<br>\u2022 An invitation to community + sharing God\u2019s gifts<br>\u2022 Addressing opposition to wine consumption<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><span>45:25<\/span> \u2013 Takeaways<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u2022 Teaching about wine in a healthy, biblical context<br>\u2022 Learn more about Wine In The Word<br>\u2022 Randy and Gisela\u2019s prayer for this study<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>FEATURED QUOTES<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cI just feel like it&#8217;s time that we stop looking at wine through the lens of our culture.\u201d &#8211; Randy Frazee<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWine is really an invitation to community, to sharing the gifts of God. You know, wine and bread and all food that the earth brings forth are gifts from God. They are not just things out there that we need to eat. They&#8217;re actually God&#8217;s love language.\u201d \u2013 Gisela Kreglinger<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cYou don&#8217;t even have to drink or like wine, but you should know about what wine is teaching us in God.\u201d &#8211; Randy Frazee<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cWe as the church have always been called to show how to live and how to live well as God has intended it, and I think we need to do that.\u201d \u2013 Gisela Kreglinger<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>+++<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Wine in the Word:<br>https:\/\/www.randyfrazee.com\/wine-in-the-word<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn more about Randy:<br>https:\/\/www.randyfrazee.com\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Randy\u2019s Books:<br>https:\/\/www.randyfrazee.com\/books<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Westside Family Church:<br>https:\/\/www.westsidefamily.church\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Facebook:<br>https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/RandyeFrazee<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Instagram:<br>https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/randyfrazee<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>LinkedIn:<br>https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/randy-frazee-43bb1545\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Learn more about Gisela:<br>https:\/\/www.thespiritualityofwine.com\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Gisela\u2019s Books and Articles:<br>https:\/\/www.thespiritualityofwine.com\/publications<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Facebook:<br>https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/gisela.kreglinger<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Instagram:<br>https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/giselakreglinger\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>LinkedIn:<br>https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/gisela-h-kreglinger-615a2910\/<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Connect with me:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>http:\/\/www.stillbeingmolly.com<br>http:\/\/instagram.com\/stillbeingmolly<br>http:\/\/instagram.com\/canilaughpod<br>http:\/\/twitter.com\/stillbeingmolly<br>http:\/\/facebook.com\/stillbeingmolly<br>http:\/\/facebook.com\/canilaughpod<br>http:\/\/tiktok.com\/@stillbeingmolly<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>GET YOUR COPY of \u2018IF I DON\u2019T LAUGH, I\u2019LL CRY\u201d TODAY:<br>Barnes &amp; Noble: https:\/\/bit.ly\/IIDLICbn<br>Amazon: https:\/\/amzn.to\/48VYFkG<br>ChristianBook: https:\/\/bit.ly\/IIDLICcb<br>Target: https:\/\/bit.ly\/3Shh3Q2<br>Walmart: https:\/\/bit.ly\/3MmGVpJ<br>Indie Bound: https:\/\/bit.ly\/IIDLICib<br>Audible: https:\/\/amzn.to\/3ITcdm8<br>Kindle: https:\/\/amzn.to\/3ITaSvv<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>About Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Can I Laugh On Your Shoulder? 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